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Siman 336 - Whether It Is Muttar [on Shabbos] to Walk on Grass [and more]

 

English Translation of the entire siman: at en.wikisource.org

Rav Ostroff's full presentation of the entire siman: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4

More on practical applications of the siman: see Rav Neustadt's discussion

 

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Siman 336, se'if 1

 

(a) Is there a decree not to utilize anything attached to the ground on Shabbos, to safeguard against the melacha of reaping? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes.

          [Classic sources: Shabbos 125b (point2s1), and the sources given for next six questions.]

 

(b) Does the above concern for the melacha of reaping include to utilize an attached tree on Shabbos, even if it is dried up? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes, that is assur.

          [Classic sources: Eiruvin 100b (points2k-s2), and the sources given for se'if 13.]

 

(c) Does the above concern for the melacha of reaping make it assur to climb up on, or hang onto, such a tree on Shabbos? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes.

          [Classic sources: Eiruvin 100a (point2a1), Beitzah 26b (points6a,7a).]

 

(d) Does the above concern for the melacha of reaping make it assur to climb down such a tree on Shabbos? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Only if his climbing up beforehand was also "be'issur", i.e. (1) on Shabbos and intentionally, (2) or (according to some) even before Shabbos but intending to stay up in the tree "into Shabbos".

          [Classic sources: Eiruvin 100a (points2c-j).]

 

(e) Does the above concern for the melacha of reaping make it assur to remove an object (on Shabbos) which one placed on such a tree? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Rema writes (put simply): Yes - even if he placed it there before Shabbos.

          [Classic sources: Eiruvin 32b (point3h), and the sources given for se'if 13.]

 

(f) Does the above concern for the melacha of reaping include to utilize attached vegetation such as soft reeds on Shabbos? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Rema writes (put simply): No, that is muttar.

          [Classic sources: Eiruvin 34b (points3a-g).]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 2

 

Does the above concern for the melacha of reaping include to utilize attached roots on Shabbos? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Only if the roots are at least three tefachim [handbreadths] above the ground (so they cannot be considered "like the ground"); and if at one point they are lower - then at that point it is muttar; but if at one point they are higher only because the ground is lower there - then even a side which is not over that "lowering" is also assur.

          [Classic sources: Eiruvin 100a (points1a-m).]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 3

 

(a) Is it muttar to walk in the grass on Shabbos, even if it is dry, without concern for unintentional uprooting (which could constitute the melacha of reaping)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes, it is muttar.

          [Classic sources: Eiruvin 100b (points3a-i).]

 

(b) Is it assur to wash one's hands over grass on Shabbos, though his unintentional watering will cultivate it [which is included under the melacha of sowing]? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes, it is assur, because it is a "p'sik reisha" [a certain result of the intended act].

          [Classic sources: Mo'ed Kattan 2b (points5a-c).]

 

(c) Given the problem of unintentional watering on Shabbos [because of the melacha of sowing], is it proper to eat in one's garden then, using water (which tends to spill)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Rema writes (put simply): It is best to be stringent.

 

(d) Does the problem of watering on Shabbos [because of the melacha of sowing] make it assur then to spill even a non‑nurturing liquid such as urine into the grass? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): No, that is muttar.

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 4

 

Where is it assur to throw away seeds on Shabbos (because of the unintentional causing them to sprout, which is the melacha of sowing)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Where rain falls and people do not walk; and even throwing to chickens there is assur if it is more seeds than they will eat in the upcoming day or two.

          [Classic sources: Shevi'is 5:2 (concerning Shemittah): "...and one may store it [i.e. a 'luf' vegetable] where people walk."]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 5

 

Is grass which grew on utensils (due to their moisture) considered attached to the ground, making uprooting it on Shabbos assur (under the melacha of reaping)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes, one would be chayav [i.e. liable to a chatas offering or to be stoned] for that.

          [Classic sources: Shabbos 107b-108a (points1c-f).]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 6

 

Can whether uprooting grass on Shabbos is assur (under the melacha of reaping) depend on the purpose for which the blades were inserted (before Shabbos)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes, for if they have not yet taken root, then it is only assur to uproot them (by grabbing the blades) if they were inserted only in order to keep them moist.

          [Classic sources: Shabbos 50b-51a (points4e,h-i).]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 7

 

Does whether uprooting on Shabbos something growing inside a vessel is assur (under the melacha of reaping) depend on whether the vessel is perforated? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): No - it is assur regardless.

          [Classic sources: Shabbos 95a (points3a-b).]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 8

 

(a) Does whether raising a vessel on Shabbos (containing something growing) from the ground (up onto supports - or lowering it in reverse) is assur (under the melacha of reaping - or sowing) depend on whether it is perforated or what material it is made of? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): One should take care not to do either, even if the vessel is not perforated, and whether it is wooden or earthenware.

          [Classic sources: Shabbos 81b (points4b-d1), Menachos 84b (points3l-n1), Gittin 21b (points4a,h).]

 

(b) Is uprooting a fruit on Shabbos from a branch which was cut from its tree (before Shabbos) assur (under the melacha of reaping)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Rema writes (put simply): No.

          [Classic sources: Chulin 127b (point3j).]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 9

 

If straw and grass gathered in a drain pipe (causing the rain to spread over one's roof and leak into the house instead of being diverted off the roof), may one unblock it by crushing them with his foot (i.e. doing the Shabbos melacha of perfecting in an unusual way to prevent a loss)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes (in private), because then it is not assur Rabbinically.

          [Classic sources: Kesubos 60a (points2l-m).]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 10

 

Which things attached to the ground is it muttar to smell on Shabbos, and which are are assur because it can lead to uprooting them (which is the melacha of reaping)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Something edible (such as an esrog or an apple) is assur, and a haddas [myrtle branch] is muttar.

          [Classic sources: Sukkah 37b (points4a1-b).]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 11

 

(a) Is it assur to submerge a seed (of wheat or barley etc.) in water on Shabbos (as a derivative of the melacha of sowing)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes, one would be chayav [i.e. liable to a chatas offering or to be stoned] for even one tiny seed.

          [Classic sources: Zevachim 94b (AllOfPoint2q).]

 

(b) Is it assur to submerge a tree branch or stem in water on Shabbos (as a derivative of the melacha of sowing)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Rema writes (put simply): Only if they have flowers (or roses) which will open because of the water's moisture.

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 12

 

Is uprooting a fruit (such as a fig) which dried up (while still attached to its tree) assur on Shabbos (under the melacha of reaping)? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Yes, one would be chayav [i.e. liable to a chatas offering or to be stoned] for that, even though such fruit are considered "detached" with regard to tum'ah [non-physical contamination].

          [Classic sources: Chulin 127b (point3h1).]

 

 

Siman 336, se'if 13

 

(a) Does the concern for the melacha of reaping [above in se'if 1] include to utilize an extension ("tz'adadin" [at the side]) of an attached tree on Shabbos? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Shulchan Aruch writes (put simply): Using the extension itself (such as climbing on a ladder which leans against a tree) is assur, but using an extension of the extension ("tzidei tz'dadin") is muttar - which would include a ladder leaned against a peg which is stuck into a tree (the peg is "tz'dadin" and the ladder is "tzidei tz'dadin") or a basket hung on such a peg.

          [Classic sources: Shabbos 154b (AllOfPoint3) through 155a (AllOfPoint1).]

 

(b) Does the above concern for the melacha of reaping make it assur even to move or touch an attached tree on Shabbos? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Rema writes (put simply): To touch it is muttar, so long as one does not move it.

          [Classic sources: see Shabbos 155a (point1c).]

 

(c) Does the above concern for the melacha of reaping make it assur to climb up or down the walls of a deep pit on Shabbos? [Request "Halacha Sources" discussion]

          The Rema writes (put simply): No; even if it is a hundred amahs deep, we are not concerned that he will uproot earth.

          [Classic sources: Eiruvin 100a (point2b2).]